i've heard people can just vanish from here with no warning. people are just gone one morning. how true is that? does it happen a lot
i talked to a guy today who was here and woke up the next morning here, suddenly from 15 years in his own future. he said he had asked the fox about it originally and at first she said no. is this also something that happens a lot? does it happen to people who DON'T ask
[ Gideon cracks her neck like she's getting ready for a bout. ]
People can leave. However, if someone you care about leaves, a starry version of them comes and says farewell to you. I've had it happen nine times. Well, eight, Yuri and Flynn left together. All but one of those were people I met here.
I'd say there's a couple trends with people leaving. There's some fluctuation with people who arrive, almost like Thirteen or them or whatever is figuring out how much they really want to be here? Then, people who've been here longer, who maybe have achieved something or I don't know... eventually people seem to leave.
Pointer would be to engage what Thirteen does here at least some. She's willing to entertain ways you make it work for you. That was a big thing for me. Like, my second month here? We had trust falls. You fell and were paralyzed, and you couldn't move until you shared something personal with someone else. I fucking hated the idea of being forced to do that. So I did it on my own. I fell and stayed in place and shared. She never made me fall.
As for people going home and returning, that happens sometimes but not all the time. Again, keep yourself interesting, growing, changing, something... less likely to happen. I've been here a year and a half, Harrow about the same, and we've never been back home and returned with more memories. People asking or not doesn't seem to matter. I'd guess Obi-wan got boring.
[Several minutes go by before Gideon gets an answer. It's a lot to absorb. Especially "if someone you care about leaves, a starry version of them comes and says farewell to you". He would absolutely lose his mind.]
this is all good stuff to know
we ought to make pamphlets or something for newbies
"so you've made a mistake and accepted thirteen's offer"
i guess i did engage in detention but it was because there was no choice. it was either that or be trapped in there forever, so.
hmm
either he got boring or thirteen just *thinks* he did in her opinion
People talk about making pamphlets. I'm good at talking about it and talking with people. Not so good at making a pamphlet.
Kinda presumptuous of you to assume it's a mistake. I'm far from the only person who'd be dead if I weren't here. Others got saved from hell. You're far from the first person to think it's a mistake, but it's not going to be one for everyone. Remember that!
More like, "Welcome to your new home where things are definitely not what you're used to."
Congrats on baby's first trial. Glad I didn't get put in detention when I first got here. Might still be there. I can be hella stubborn. Still am, but not in as self-destructive a way. I think.
If he just wanted to go home and didn't want to achieve his potential, he probably did get boring by Thirteen's understanding. I mean, I figure it costs something to keep us here, so if he's not making it worth her while...
In all the time I've been here, I don't think we've ever passed 200 Star Children here at one time. Whether she can't do more or doesn't want to, it's been a thing.
And you're welcome. I can tell you're getting broody, but come on, you can brood and message me back and forth. Yeah?
[ You're asking about serious scary shit, dumbass. Her answers are serious and potentially scary. Brooding gonna happen. ]
Glad you still want to be here. I'm glad you're here.
Sometimes people need a god damned break. Folkmore is great for that. I know you danced yourself dry in Euphoria, but you've still only seen the tip of the iceberg.
I could've just said "yes it's possible" but that'd be fearmongering. We have more control over our lives than it first appears. You gotta find the way, and no fighting Thirteen isn't the way to do it. Be water, not earth or whatever it is with the elements.
"Someone else you know" you mean the guy who moved in with you?
Please, you can hide it from almost everyone else but not me.
Have you ever met anyone super powerful who isn't in any way shape or form annoying? [ You can put yourself in that category if you want to, big boy. ]
You realize she has like... office hours? You can make an appointment, at least with some of her. Good fucking luck with catching Thoth. She's so hands off. If you want to go swear out Kuma Lisa, you can do that pretty easily.
Wow, you're such a good friend letting him crash himself, his new furniture, and 800 boxes worth of new belongings with you in your place. Just the bestest of friends. Remind me to crash with you if I ever need a place to crash. I know I can bring all my baggage.
You could make less grand less under of statements. I'll listen.
yeah somehow i don't think she'd accept my appointment. don't think she'd like what i have to say.
kuma lisa was the one who did the detention so she's on my shit list too
and hey anyone is welcome to crash here!! no one else needed it okay
idk if i could explain it succinctly. there's so much to it and so much he doesn't know that i do
but it's the same with the other people from my home who know me from the future, and the gap there is much wider. i can't imagine what could have happened in over a decade. they know things i don't and rightly haven't told me. they have to live with that knowledge just like i have to live with this
So you're giving up without even trying? Didn't think that was your style. Accepting defeat without even having a go.
Anyone. I'll remember that the next time I learn someone needs a place to crash. Harrow's very particular about her space, so I can't be as generous. So glad you're right next door so generous and kind and welcoming.
You don't have to be succinct, buddy. You could go on and on and on. I won't reveal a peep to him because I'm not a snitch.
That sounds rough. It sucks when you know things people don't. Not the same situation, but Harrow spent the first six months in Folkmore thinking it was fake, all in her head, that I was just in her head. Do you know how hard it is to convince someone you're real when they think you're fake? Thought she'd made a bubble universe. A friend of ours has done that before, so like that shit is real where we come from. It was such a weird nightmare that heavily weighed on everything we did. You can't exactly tell a girl you love her and kiss her when she thinks you're a figment of her imagination. Even if she went "Yes I love you too lets make out in bikinis," you couldn't just do that. Because she doesn't think it's really you. She thinks it's a fantasy of her own making.
There's a lot of shit back home. You might not be able to talk with him about it, but you can talk with him. You can be there for him however he needs. Because you have that glimpse into how bad it gets to help you make sure it doesn't get that bad here. It also means he can't help you process it, though. That's where you can turn to people you know from home from the future or new friends (hi i'm New Friends) or by yourself. That last one is the hardest. The thing is, as hard as that is, you're not helpless. There's so fucking much you can do, if you dare to.
the reason i don't want to go is because i want nothing more at this moment than to explode her into a fine fucking mist and don't think telling me i can't would stop me from trying
maybe in the future i can try talking but i am not in the mood rn
i did try talking to him. he says all that nothing has changed between us but he only says that because he has no idea what's on the horizon
everything's changed
and he can't know because knowing it will completely wreck him
[Like it has with Gojo.]
and now he's here and he's in my apartment
like that's his fucking toothbrush is in the bathroom you know?
it's so absurd
i want him there but i also want to never see him ever again
i can understand why Harrow might think that way because this place is beyond absurd sometimes. i'm glad she's better now. that must have been heartbreaking to watch.
There it is. The honest truth. I appreciate it, I really do. Of course you'd try. That's you. I know we've only met recently, but I have really solid vibe checks for 'people's impulses to turn someone into fucking mist.' Also, seen it happen. 0/10 do not recommend getting eau de dad on you.
Talking to Thirteen can wait. Excellent decision making skills.
Ugh. Okay, so you tried to talk to him about ~*~the future~*~ He doesn't get it because it's the future and he can't see the future (as this demonstrates). God this is like one of those awful lab trials, maybe the siphoning one. That hurt like balls. Except this is all in the head.
Okay okay okay you're special grade at handling curses, time to special grade at emotions. You need to talk about this dumb fucking godawful future stuff without telling him it's the future stuff or you know... exploding his head/heart/emotions whatever. From having witnessed 10,000 year old drama (hey this is where the misting someone came in), it does NOT get better with age. Whatever the fucketh is going on probably has at least seeds right? If it didn't, it wouldn't worry you so much.
I haaaaaaate it, the above, totally do, I get it i get it, and you can complain to me 100% of the way because boy oh boy there is so much I got through via complaining, frontline titties of the fifth, and swordtime. (I could try to summon The Biggest Dicks of the Third for you if it'd help? you seem like a dick man more than a tits man at least a certain dick man).
And maybe some day you'll no longer want to never see him again? what the fuck did he doooooooooo, dude, I wanna know. Not asking. Not asking.
It was pretty fucking the worst. I ended up having to recruit other people to help me on Project Folkmore is Real to convince her. The fact we kept having alternate versions of ourselves arriving and disappearing and shit really didn't help. You missed the many Gojo era.
i tdid tell him a little. i was vague but i gave him what details i could. i know Nanami did too. oh yeah he's someone i went to school with who was a year behind me but now he's here and he's like 30 or something. that's a whole other story
i told him he had to listen to an apology. he didn't react much but tbh i know where he just came from at home and it was really fucking awful too. someone we were protecting got murdered in front of him. he thought the same person murdered me. he's shellshocked. so honestly how can i expect him to process all that stuff at once. i probably should have waited but i couldn't. i couldn't look at him another second without making him listen to me
i somehow need to like
separate him into two people in my head now
ghosts of Suguru past and future, haunting me in the present
the one thing i am sure of is that he will be better here. we're not sorcerers here. he had it probably the worst out of anyone. he can rest now. what worries me is that being taken from him against his will too soon. disappearing before he's ready to go, or waking up from a different point in his life.
i keep trying to remind myself i can't fix what happen but i can make things going forward better. cuz you're right, those seeds were planted, they festered, and now here we are. or here i am.
and if you're offering to conjure me up what i am assuming from the name is porn #1 wow what and #2 i'll take one of each
I'm really fortunate that everyone from my world is roughly from the same time. Sure, my dad is from farther along, but pretty sure all he's done is drink and ew sleep around since I saw him.
Oh, murder. Yeah, that's uh, been there, fucking sucks. I don't even remember what most people said to me after that. Don't take it personally if he wasn't following the apology. You can always apologize again later. If it helped you, that's good. Did some good.
That's the thing. Whatever the fuck awful shit happens by your time, that's not him yet. He's... this past version. And the future version, that's all in your head because that guy isn't here. You have who you have, and that's what you can focus on. Thirteen brought him here now, from the time he's from, not your future ghost of Suguru. People usually are here a good while before they wake up from a different point in their lives.
You two just have to be interesting, have to work on yourselves as you are now. Make it so Thirteen can't get what you two are doing here any other way and that's a damn good reason to keep things how they are. I know it must be damn near impossible to let go of that, hearing that so soon after you both got here, but I've been here a year and a half. Neither Harrow nor I have gotten older since we got here. Look to the lesbians in your life. It can be okay.
Better going forward is the right attitude. Those seeds haven't festered yet, not for him. That's what's most important. That's what you can do shit about.
The good news is you have some time and I'm here to help when you need it. I guess you could call this your proper welcome to folkmore because it's intense level of shit. (I got to break down a block of ice containing my own corpse to get my sword back, long story)
You're welcome. Keep the porn lesbian for me. You can have all the dicks.
no subject
i've heard people can just vanish from here with no warning. people are just gone one morning. how true is that? does it happen a lot
i talked to a guy today who was here and woke up the next morning here, suddenly from 15 years in his own future. he said he had asked the fox about it originally and at first she said no. is this also something that happens a lot? does it happen to people who DON'T ask
no subject
People can leave. However, if someone you care about leaves, a starry version of them comes and says farewell to you. I've had it happen nine times. Well, eight, Yuri and Flynn left together. All but one of those were people I met here.
I'd say there's a couple trends with people leaving. There's some fluctuation with people who arrive, almost like Thirteen or them or whatever is figuring out how much they really want to be here? Then, people who've been here longer, who maybe have achieved something or I don't know... eventually people seem to leave.
Pointer would be to engage what Thirteen does here at least some. She's willing to entertain ways you make it work for you. That was a big thing for me. Like, my second month here? We had trust falls. You fell and were paralyzed, and you couldn't move until you shared something personal with someone else. I fucking hated the idea of being forced to do that. So I did it on my own. I fell and stayed in place and shared. She never made me fall.
As for people going home and returning, that happens sometimes but not all the time. Again, keep yourself interesting, growing, changing, something... less likely to happen. I've been here a year and a half, Harrow about the same, and we've never been back home and returned with more memories. People asking or not doesn't seem to matter. I'd guess Obi-wan got boring.
no subject
this is all good stuff to know
we ought to make pamphlets or something for newbies
"so you've made a mistake and accepted thirteen's offer"
i guess i did engage in detention but it was because there was no choice. it was either that or be trapped in there forever, so.
hmm
either he got boring or thirteen just *thinks* he did in her opinion
i see
[Another beat, then:]
thanks
no subject
Kinda presumptuous of you to assume it's a mistake. I'm far from the only person who'd be dead if I weren't here. Others got saved from hell. You're far from the first person to think it's a mistake, but it's not going to be one for everyone. Remember that!
More like, "Welcome to your new home where things are definitely not what you're used to."
Congrats on baby's first trial. Glad I didn't get put in detention when I first got here. Might still be there. I can be hella stubborn. Still am, but not in as self-destructive a way. I think.
If he just wanted to go home and didn't want to achieve his potential, he probably did get boring by Thirteen's understanding. I mean, I figure it costs something to keep us here, so if he's not making it worth her while...
In all the time I've been here, I don't think we've ever passed 200 Star Children here at one time. Whether she can't do more or doesn't want to, it's been a thing.
And you're welcome. I can tell you're getting broody, but come on, you can brood and message me back and forth. Yeah?
no subject
yeah true i hear ya
i mean i have to say all things considered this place is still better than home for me even if things here are complicated in other ways
not so much for me but the other sorcerers really need a break
but i really just wanted to know if one morning i was gonna wake up a decade older or someone else i know was
or if they'd just be gone with no warning. i guess there is a warning kind of
and don't be ridiculous i'm not broody
no subject
Glad you still want to be here. I'm glad you're here.
Sometimes people need a god damned break. Folkmore is great for that. I know you danced yourself dry in Euphoria, but you've still only seen the tip of the iceberg.
I could've just said "yes it's possible" but that'd be fearmongering. We have more control over our lives than it first appears. You gotta find the way, and no fighting Thirteen isn't the way to do it. Be water, not earth or whatever it is with the elements.
"Someone else you know" you mean the guy who moved in with you?
Please, you can hide it from almost everyone else but not me.
no subject
probably more benevolent than other gods i've heard about, that's for sure
still annoying tho
i have some fucking words for her if i ever see her again
[He's also quietly groaning right now on the other side of their apartment wall. Of course she's noticed Geto there.]
they brought a friend of mine here
he's going to stay with me for now since i just moved in here anyway
long story short i come from a year later in his life and to say this complicated things is a grand understatement
no subject
You realize she has like... office hours? You can make an appointment, at least with some of her. Good fucking luck with catching Thoth. She's so hands off. If you want to go swear out Kuma Lisa, you can do that pretty easily.
Wow, you're such a good friend letting him crash himself, his new furniture, and 800 boxes worth of new belongings with you in your place. Just the bestest of friends. Remind me to crash with you if I ever need a place to crash. I know I can bring all my baggage.
You could make less grand less under of statements. I'll listen.
no subject
kuma lisa was the one who did the detention so she's on my shit list too
and hey anyone is welcome to crash here!! no one else needed it okay
idk if i could explain it succinctly. there's so much to it and so much he doesn't know that i do
but it's the same with the other people from my home who know me from the future, and the gap there is much wider. i can't imagine what could have happened in over a decade.
they know things i don't and rightly haven't told me. they have to live with that knowledge just like i have to live with this
it's really bad, gideon. and he has no idea.
no subject
Anyone. I'll remember that the next time I learn someone needs a place to crash. Harrow's very particular about her space, so I can't be as generous. So glad you're right next door so generous and kind and welcoming.
You don't have to be succinct, buddy. You could go on and on and on. I won't reveal a peep to him because I'm not a snitch.
That sounds rough. It sucks when you know things people don't. Not the same situation, but Harrow spent the first six months in Folkmore thinking it was fake, all in her head, that I was just in her head. Do you know how hard it is to convince someone you're real when they think you're fake? Thought she'd made a bubble universe. A friend of ours has done that before, so like that shit is real where we come from. It was such a weird nightmare that heavily weighed on everything we did. You can't exactly tell a girl you love her and kiss her when she thinks you're a figment of her imagination. Even if she went "Yes I love you too lets make out in bikinis," you couldn't just do that. Because she doesn't think it's really you. She thinks it's a fantasy of her own making.
There's a lot of shit back home. You might not be able to talk with him about it, but you can talk with him. You can be there for him however he needs. Because you have that glimpse into how bad it gets to help you make sure it doesn't get that bad here. It also means he can't help you process it, though. That's where you can turn to people you know from home from the future or new friends (hi i'm New Friends) or by yourself. That last one is the hardest. The thing is, as hard as that is, you're not helpless. There's so fucking much you can do, if you dare to.
no subject
the reason i don't want to go is because i want nothing more at this moment than to explode her into a fine fucking mist and don't think telling me i can't would stop me from trying
maybe in the future i can try talking but i am not in the mood rn
i did try talking to him. he says all that nothing has changed between us but he only says that because he has no idea what's on the horizon
everything's changed
and he can't know because knowing it will completely wreck him
[Like it has with Gojo.]
and now he's here and he's in my apartment
like that's his fucking toothbrush is in the bathroom you know?
it's so absurd
i want him there but i also want to never see him ever again
i can understand why Harrow might think that way because this place is beyond absurd sometimes. i'm glad she's better now. that must have been heartbreaking to watch.
no subject
Talking to Thirteen can wait. Excellent decision making skills.
Ugh. Okay, so you tried to talk to him about ~*~the future~*~ He doesn't get it because it's the future and he can't see the future (as this demonstrates). God this is like one of those awful lab trials, maybe the siphoning one. That hurt like balls. Except this is all in the head.
Okay okay okay you're special grade at handling curses, time to special grade at emotions. You need to talk about this dumb fucking godawful future stuff without telling him it's the future stuff or you know... exploding his head/heart/emotions whatever. From having witnessed 10,000 year old drama (hey this is where the misting someone came in), it does NOT get better with age. Whatever the fucketh is going on probably has at least seeds right? If it didn't, it wouldn't worry you so much.
I haaaaaaate it, the above, totally do, I get it i get it, and you can complain to me 100% of the way because boy oh boy there is so much I got through via complaining, frontline titties of the fifth, and swordtime. (I could try to summon The Biggest Dicks of the Third for you if it'd help? you seem like a dick man more than a tits man
at least a certain dick man).And maybe some day you'll no longer want to never see him again?
what the fuck did he doooooooooo, dude, I wanna know. Not asking. Not asking.It was pretty fucking the worst. I ended up having to recruit other people to help me on Project Folkmore is Real to convince her. The fact we kept having alternate versions of ourselves arriving and disappearing and shit really didn't help. You missed the many Gojo era.
no subject
i told him he had to listen to an apology. he didn't react much but tbh i know where he just came from at home and it was really fucking awful too. someone we were protecting got murdered in front of him. he thought the same person murdered me. he's shellshocked. so honestly how can i expect him to process all that stuff at once. i probably should have waited but i couldn't. i couldn't look at him another second without making him listen to me
i somehow need to like
separate him into two people in my head now
ghosts of Suguru past and future, haunting me in the present
the one thing i am sure of is that he will be better here. we're not sorcerers here. he had it probably the worst out of anyone. he can rest now. what worries me is that being taken from him against his will too soon. disappearing before he's ready to go, or waking up from a different point in his life.
i keep trying to remind myself i can't fix what happen but i can make things going forward better. cuz you're right, those seeds were planted, they festered, and now here we are. or here i am.
and if you're offering to conjure me up what i am assuming from the name is porn #1 wow what and #2 i'll take one of each
no subject
Oh, murder. Yeah, that's uh, been there, fucking sucks. I don't even remember what most people said to me after that. Don't take it personally if he wasn't following the apology. You can always apologize again later. If it helped you, that's good. Did some good.
That's the thing. Whatever the fuck awful shit happens by your time, that's not him yet. He's... this past version. And the future version, that's all in your head because that guy isn't here. You have who you have, and that's what you can focus on. Thirteen brought him here now, from the time he's from, not your future ghost of Suguru. People usually are here a good while before they wake up from a different point in their lives.
You two just have to be interesting, have to work on yourselves as you are now. Make it so Thirteen can't get what you two are doing here any other way and that's a damn good reason to keep things how they are. I know it must be damn near impossible to let go of that, hearing that so soon after you both got here, but I've been here a year and a half. Neither Harrow nor I have gotten older since we got here. Look to the lesbians in your life. It can be okay.
Better going forward is the right attitude. Those seeds haven't festered yet, not for him. That's what's most important. That's what you can do shit about.
You know it. And you're welcome.
no subject
somehow. idk how. i just need some time. this all happened so fast.
thanks gideon. i owe you. i guess next time the porn is on me.
no subject
You're welcome. Keep the porn lesbian for me. You can have all the dicks.